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PERSONSOFTHEDIALOGUE:SOCRATES;ION
Socrates。Welcome,Ion。AreyoufromyournativecityofEphesus?
Ion。No,Socrates;butfromEpidaurus,whereIattendedthefestival
ofAsclepius。
Soc。AnddotheEpidaurianshavecontestsofrhapsodesatthe
festival?
Ion。Oyes;andofallsortsofmusicalperformers。
Soc。Andwereyouoneofthecompetitors—anddidyousucceed?
Ion。Iobtainedthefirstprizeofall,Socrates。
Soc。Welldone;andIhopethatyouwilldothesameforusatthe
Panathenaea。
Ion。AndIwill,pleaseheaven。
Soc。Ioftenenvytheprofessionofarhapsode,Ion;foryouhave
alwaystowearfineclothes,andtolookasbeautifulasyoucanis
apartofyourart。Then,again,youareobligedtobecontinually
inthecompanyofmanygoodpoets;andespeciallyofHomer,whoisthe
bestandmostdivineofthem;andtounderstandhim,andnotmerely
learnhiswordsbyrote,isathinggreatlytobeenvied。Andnoman
canbearhapsodewhodoesnotunderstandthemeaningofthepoet。For
therhapsodeoughttointerpretthemindofthepoettohishearers,
buthowcanheinterprethimwellunlessheknowswhathemeans?All
thisisgreatlytobeenvied。
Ion。Verytrue,Socrates;interpretationhascertainlybeenthemost
laboriouspartofmyart;andIbelievemyselfabletospeakabout
Homerbetterthananyman;andthatneitherMetrodorusofLampsacus,
norStesimbrotusofThasos,norGlaucon,noranyoneelsewhoever
was,hadasgoodideasaboutHomerasIhave,orasmany。
Soc。Iamgladtohearyousayso,Ion;Iseethatyouwillnot
refusetoacquaintmewiththem。
Ion。Certainly,Socrates;andyoureallyoughttohearhow
exquisitelyIrenderHomer。IthinkthattheHomeridaeshouldgive
meagoldencrown。
Soc。Ishalltakeanopportunityofhearingyourembellishmentsof
himatsomeothertime。ButjustnowIshouldliketoaskyoua
question:DoesyourartextendtoHesiodandArchilochus,orto
Homeronly?
Ion。ToHomeronly;heisinhimselfquiteenough。
Soc。ArethereanythingsaboutwhichHomerandHesiodagree?
Ion。Yes;inmyopinionthereareagoodmany。
Soc。AndcanyouinterpretbetterwhatHomersays,orwhatHesiod
says,aboutthesemattersinwhichtheyagree?
Ion。Icaninterpretthemequallywell,Socrates,wheretheyagree。
Soc。Butwhataboutmattersinwhichtheydonotagree?—for
example,aboutdivination,ofwhichbothHomerandHesiodhave
somethingtosay—
Ion。Verytrue:
Soc。Wouldyouoragoodprophetbeabetterinterpreterofwhat
thesetwopoetssayaboutdivination,notonlywhentheyagree,but
whentheydisagree?
Ion。Aprophet。
Soc。Andifyouwereaprophet,wouldyoubeabletointerpret
themwhentheydisagreeaswellaswhentheyagree?
Ion。Clearly。
Soc。ButhowdidyoucometohavethisskillaboutHomeronly,and
notaboutHesiodortheotherpoets?DoesnotHomerspeakofthe
samethemeswhichallotherpoetshandle?Isnotwarhisgreat
argument?anddoeshenotspeakofhumansocietyandofintercourseof
men,goodandbad,skilledandunskilled,andofthegodsconversing
withoneanotherandwithmankind,andaboutwhathappensinheaven
andintheworldbelow,andthegenerationsofgodsandheroes?Are
notthesethethemesofwhichHomersings?
Ion。Verytrue,Socrates。
Soc。Anddonottheotherpoetssingofthesame?
Ion。Yes,Socrates;butnotinthesamewayasHomer。
Soc。What,inaworseway?
Ion。Yes,inafarworse。
Soc。AndHomerinabetterway?
Ion。Heisincomparablybetter。
Soc。Andyetsurely,mydearfriendIon,inadiscussionabout
arithmetic,wheremanypeoplearespeaking,andonespeaksbetterthan
therest,thereissomebodywhocanjudgewhichofthemisthegood
speaker?
Ion。Yes。
Soc。Andhewhojudgesofthegoodwillbethesameashewhojudges
ofthebadspeakers?
Ion。Thesame。
Soc。Andhewillbethearithmetician?
Ion。Yes。
Soc。Well,andindiscussionsaboutthewholesomenessoffood,
whenmanypersonsarespeaking,andonespeaksbetterthantherest,
willhewhorecognizesthebetterspeakerbeadifferentpersonfrom
himwhorecognizestheworse,orthesame?
Ion。Clearlythesame。
Soc。Andwhoishe,andwhatishisname?
Ion。Thephysician。
Soc。Andspeakinggenerally,inalldiscussionsinwhichthesubject
isthesameandmanymenarespeaking,willnothewhoknowsthe
goodknowthebadspeakeralso?Forifhedoesnotknowthebad,
neitherwillheknowthegoodwhenthesametopicisbeingdiscussed。
Ion。True。
Soc。Isnotthesamepersonskilfulinboth?
Ion。Yes。
Soc。AndyousaythatHomerandtheotherpoets,suchasHesiod
andArchilochus,speakofthesamethings,althoughnotinthesame
way;buttheonespeakswellandtheothernotsowell?
Ion。Yes;andIamrightinsayingso。
Soc。Andifyouknewthegoodspeaker,youwouldalsoknowthe
inferiorspeakerstobeinferior?
Ion。Thatistrue。
Soc。Then,mydearfriend,canIbemistakeninsayingthatIonis
equallyskilledinHomerandinotherpoets,sincehehimself
acknowledgesthatthesamepersonwillbeagoodjudgeofallthose
whospeakofthesamethings;andthatalmostallpoetsdospeakof
thesamethings?
Ion。Whythen,Socrates,doIloseattentionandgotosleepand
haveabsolutelynoideasoftheleastvalue,whenanyonespeaksof
anyotherpoet;butwhenHomerismentioned,Iwakeupatonceand
amallattentionandhaveplentytosay?
Soc。Thereason,myfriend,isobvious。Noonecanfailtosee
thatyouspeakofHomerwithoutanyartorknowledge。Ifyouwereable
tospeakofhimbyrulesofart,youwouldhavebeenabletospeak
ofallotherpoets;forpoetryisawhole。
Ion。Yes。
Soc。Andwhenanyoneacquiresanyotherartasawhole,thesame
maybesaidofthem。Wouldyoulikemetoexplainmymeaning,Ion?
Ion。Yes,indeed,Socrates;Iverymuchwishthatyouwould:forI
lovetohearyouwisementalk。
Soc。Othatwewerewise,Ion,andthatyoucouldtrulycallus
so;butyourhapsodesandactors,andthepoetswhoseversesyousing,
arewise;whereasIamacommonman,whoonlyspeakthetruth。For
considerwhataverycommonplaceandtrivialthingisthiswhichI
havesaid—athingwhichanymanmightsay:thatwhenamanhas
acquiredaknowledgeofawholeart,theenquiryintogoodandbad
isoneandthesame。Letusconsiderthismatter;isnottheartof
paintingawhole?
Ion。Yes。
Soc。Andthereareandhavebeenmanypaintersgoodandbad?
Ion。Yes。
Soc。Anddidyoueverknowanyonewhowasskilfulinpointingout
theexcellencesanddefectsofPolygnotusthesonofAglaophon,but
incapableofcriticizingotherpainters;andwhentheworkofany
otherpainterwasproduced,wenttosleepandwasataloss,andhad
noideas;butwhenhehadtogivehisopinionaboutPolygnotus,or
whoeverthepaintermightbe,andabouthimonly,wokeupandwas
attentiveandhadplentytosay?
Ion。Noindeed,Ihaveneverknownsuchaperson。
Soc。Ordidyoueverknowofanyoneinsculpture,whowasskilful
inexpoundingthemeritsofDaedalusthesonofMetion,orofEpeius
thesonofPanopeus,orofTheodorustheSamian,orofany
individualsculptor;butwhentheworksofsculptorsingeneralwere
produced,wasatalossandwenttosleepandhadnothingtosay?
Ion。Noindeed;nomorethantheother。
Soc。AndifIamnotmistaken,younevermetwithanyoneamong
flute—playersorharp—playersorsingerstotheharporrhapsodeswho
wasabletodiscourseofOlympusorThamyrasorOrpheus,orPhemius
therhapsodeofIthaca,butwasatalosswhenhecametospeakofIon
ofEphesus,andhadnonotionofhismeritsordefects?
Ion。Icannotdenywhatyousay,Socrates。NeverthelessIam
consciousinmyownself,andtheworldagreeswithmeinthinking
thatIdospeakbetterandhavemoretosayaboutHomerthananyother
man。ButIdonotspeakequallywellaboutothers—tellmethe
reasonofthis。
Soc。Iperceive,Ion;andIwillproceedtoexplaintoyouwhatI
imaginetobethereasonofthis。Thegiftwhichyoupossessof
speakingexcellentlyaboutHomerisnotanart,but,asIwasjust
saying,aninspiration;thereisadivinitymovingyou,likethat
containedinthestonewhichEuripidescallsamagnet,butwhichis
commonlyknownasthestoneofHeraclea。Thisstonenotonly
attractsironrings,butalsoimpartstothemasimilarpowerof
attractingotherrings;andsometimesyoumayseeanumberofpieces
ofironandringssuspendedfromoneanothersoastoformquitea
longchain:andallofthemderivetheirpowerofsuspensionfrom
theoriginalstone。InlikemannertheMusefirstofallinspires
menherself;andfromtheseinspiredpersonsachainofother
personsissuspended,whotaketheinspiration。Forallgoodpoets,
epicaswellaslyric,composetheirbeautifulpoemsnotbyart,but
becausetheyareinspiredandpossessed。AndastheCorybantian
revellerswhentheydancearenotintheirrightmind,sothelyric
poetsarenotintheirrightmindwhentheyarecomposingtheir
beautifulstrains:butwhenfallingunderthepowerofmusicandmetre
theyareinspiredandpossessed;likeBacchicmaidenswhodrawmilk
andhoneyfromtheriverswhentheyareundertheinfluenceof
Dionysusbutnotwhentheyareintheirrightmind。Andthesoulof
thelyricpoetdoesthesame,astheythemselvessay;fortheytellus
thattheybringsongsfromhoneyedfountains,cullingthemoutof
thegardensanddellsoftheMuses;they,likethebees,wingingtheir
wayfromflowertoflower。Andthisistrue。Forthepoetisalight
andwingedandholything,andthereisnoinventioninhimuntilhe
hasbeeninspiredandisoutofhissenses,andthemindisno
longerinhim:whenhehasnotattainedtothisstate,heispowerless
andisunabletoutterhisoracles。
Manyarethenoblewordsinwhichpoetsspeakconcerningtheactions
ofmen;butlikeyourselfwhenspeakingaboutHomer,theydonotspeak
ofthembyanyrulesofart:theyaresimplyinspiredtoutterthatto
whichtheMuseimpelsthem,andthatonly;andwheninspired,oneof
themwillmakedithyrambs,anotherhymnsofpraise,anotherchoral
strains,anotherepicoriambicverses—andhewhoisgoodatoneis
notgoodanyotherkindofverse:fornotbyartdoesthepoetsing,
butbypowerdivine。Hadhelearnedbyrulesofart,hewouldhave
knownhowtospeaknotofonethemeonly,butofall;andtherefore
Godtakesawaythemindsofpoets,andusesthemashisministers,
ashealsousesdivinersandholyprophets,inorderthatwewho
hearthemmayknowthemtobespeakingnotofthemselveswhoutter
thesepricelesswordsinastateofunconsciousness,butthatGod
himselfisthespeaker,andthatthroughthemheisconversingwith
us。AndTynnichustheChalcidianaffordsastrikinginstanceofwhatI
amsaying:hewrotenothingthatanyonewouldcaretorememberbut
thefamouspaeanwhich;ineveryone’smouth,oneofthefinest
poemseverwritten,simplyaninventionoftheMuses,ashehimself
says。Forinthisway,theGodwouldseemtoindicatetousandnot
allowustodoubtthatthesebeautifulpoemsarenothuman,orthe
workofman,butdivineandtheworkofGod;andthatthepoetsare
onlytheinterpretersoftheGodsbywhomtheyareseverally
possessed。WasnotthisthelessonwhichtheGodintendedtoteach
whenbythemouthoftheworstofpoetshesangthebestofsongs?
AmInotright,Ion?
Ion。Yes,indeed,Socrates,Ifeelthatyouare;foryourwords
touchmysoul,andIampersuadedthatgoodpoetsbyadivine
inspirationinterpretthethingsoftheGodstous。
Soc。Andyourhapsodistsaretheinterpretersofthepoets?
Ion。Thereagainyouareright。
Soc。Thenyouaretheinterpretersofinterpreters?
Ion。Precisely。
Soc。Iwishyouwouldfranklytellme,Ion,whatIamgoingtoask
ofyou:Whenyouproducethegreatesteffectupontheaudiencein
therecitationofsomestrikingpassage,suchastheapparitionof
Odysseusleapingforthonthefloor,recognizedbythesuitorsand
castinghisarrowsathisfeet,orthedescriptionofAchillesrushing
atHector,orthesorrowsofAndromache,Hecuba,orPriam,—areyouin
yourrightmind?Areyounotcarriedoutofyourself,anddoesnot
yoursoulinanecstasyseemtobeamongthepersonsorplacesof
whichyouarespeaking,whethertheyareinIthacaorinTroyor
whatevermaybethesceneofthepoem?
Ion。Thatproofstrikeshometome,Socrates。ForImustfrankly
confessthatatthetaleofpity,myeyesarefilledwithtears,and
whenIspeakofhorrors,myhairstandsonendandmyheartthrobs。
Soc。Well,Ion,andwhatarewetosayofamanwhoatasacrifice
orfestival,whenheisdressedinholidayattireandhasgolden
crownsuponhishead,ofwhichnobodyhasrobbedhim,appearssweeping
orpanic—strickeninthepresenceofmorethantwentythousand
friendlyfaces,whenthereisnoonedespoilingorwronginghim;—is
heinhisrightmindorishenot?
Ion。Noindeed,Socrates,Imustsaythat,strictlyspeaking,he
isnotinhisrightmind。
Soc。Andareyouawarethatyouproducesimilareffectsonmost
spectators?
Ion。Onlytoowell;forIlookdownuponthemfromthestage,and
beholdthevariousemotionsofpity,wonder,sternness,stampedupon
theircountenanceswhenIamspeaking:andIamobligedtogivemy
verybestattentiontothem;forifImakethemcryImyselfshall
laugh,andifImakethemlaughImyselfshallcrywhenthetimeof
paymentarrives。